4 Reasons Why Windows Vista Is Just Not Worth It
As you all may have heard, Microsoft has released Windows Vista to manufacturing yesterday. A momentous event? Well that just depends on who you ask, and if the person is myself then you are going to get the following four reasons why I personally would not even bother with Windows Vista.
1. No new features or speed boost – No kidding, it’s true! Windows Vista won’t run Microsoft Word any faster, won’t make your presentations look any better, and if my own experience is any indication then Vista is not going to make managing your PC any easier either. If Microsoft sticks to their new anti-piracy plan then corporations will be having to setup whole new license management systems to deal with Vista. To make matters even worse this *new* version of Windows is really just the Windows Server 2003 kernel in colorful clothing with some snazzy new mini-applications. Microsoft provided these programs in the “Ultimate” version of Vista as a weak attempt to compete with Apple’s iLife software suite. Additionally, my own informal tests on my Macbook Pro seem to indicate that Vista upgrades will likely run existing applications slower than XP for many folks forcing the purchase of new hardware just to “keep up”. Bottom line; Vista does not add any substantial new features for new or existing Windows users and may even be a significant reduction in speed for some users who dare to upgrade from XP on today’s hardware.
2. The new interface just gets in the way – Go ahead, try it out at your local computer store (demos should be available soon). One of the first things you are going to notice is the new interface which is a major case for the bifocal lens thanks to the excessive use of transparency. Unnecessary eye candy is everywhere, and seems to not add or enhance any features that might make users more productive. No well thought out GUI tricks like OSX’s expose here, just pure bling that quickly becomes annoying on all but the fastest PCs. The bottom line; Windows Vista does not bring anything new to the table other than more gizmo-style features that only serve to get in your way when you are trying to actually get some work done.
3. Security will still be a major problem – Since Microsoft decided not to build Windows Vista on the longhorn kernel (which was rumored to be a complete rewrite, or close to it) they ended up leaving many of the known problem areas of Windows XP (and other previous versions) still in place. In an attempt to address this problem of legacy code support they have tacked on a layer which is supposed to protect the system from malware and viruses. This layer is visible to the user in the form of dialog boxes that pop up every time you require “administrator” or direct access to system resources, something that seems far too common on the Windows platform. What does this mean for most users? More dialog boxes for users to mindlessly click “Ok” to without even bothering to read the message. Bottom line; constantly annoying pop-ups intending to improve security will actually result in even greater problems as users begin to blindly click “Ok” even more than they already do now.
4. The alternatives are so much better – I know what you are thinking, here comes the Linux or Mac OSX vs. Windows argument. Well you’re wrong! Right now the best alternative to Windows Vista is its predecessor Windows XP. The reality is that you can do everything promised by Windows Vista in Windows XP today with less hassle and in most cases faster than you could in Windows Vista on the same hardware. If you already use Linux or Mac OSX then Vista is not going to impress you anyway so don’t even bother taking a look.
Well that’s enough for now, look for me to post a nice (or not) mini-review of Windows Vista Ultimate Edition soon which will discuss some of the above mentioned issue in much greater detail.
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You’re an idiot!! There are plenty of new features and the gui is very cool. Performance is also a major improvement … was running WinXP on Dell Dimension 4600, it was pretty slow. Upgraded to 1.5GB memory and got new ATI Radeon X1600 512MB AGP video card, XP still slow. Installed Windows Vista on a new partion, it’s amazing how much faster, crisp, clear, etc. Vista is than XP. Get off your soapbox and get back to smoking whatever you were smoking when you wrote this article.
Hmmm, this guy worried me for a minute, before I realised how wrong he was…
Try it for yourselves people. Go on. No really…
XP was a real milestone.
Vista is another Windows ME filling in the gap while people upgrade their hardware.
The real deal will probably come a few years later. Microsoft have deemed it far too risky to release the real deal now because there won’t be enough users with adequate hardware to upgrade. They have hedged their bets on the likelihood that most PC’s that can run XP now can run basic Vista and will upgrade their hardware also at some point in time. Microsoft have done their homework and are only releasing an upgrade which XP users can make – a gap ( a Windows ME) until the next real new OS.
A completey re-written code with a new file system and many new and really useful features was put on hold when Microsoft did their homework and realized that if they released the new OS now many users would not be able to upgrade so they are cashing in on an ‘interim period’ when people are ‘in the process’ of thinking about upgrading their hardware and they know that will take a while so in the meantime are releasing WINDOWS ‘ME Vista’ to fill the gap and their pockets.
Folks, don’t have any doubt – Vista is an interim OS like ME and won’t be very popular like ME because it’s not any better than XP and will cost an upgrade for many so millions won’t touch it.
I was really looking forward to buying Vista but there’s just nothing but extra skins and icons in it and that’s not enough incentive to make me want to upgrade.
So whats the point for Windows Vista, heck 2 years from now there will be another version of Windows promising to be better but yet so far off. I am really thinking about switching to linix or Mac, sounds a whole lot easier and without less aggravation from Microsoft!!
[...] Een kleine maand voor Windows Vista in de rekken ligt en omdat ik niet veel aan jullie mening heb, jullie mening is immers niks waard, kan ik jullie zeggen dat Windows Vista zuigt, net zoals andere topschrijvers hebben bewezen. Hier zijn mijn 5 reden waarom Vista niet de moeite waard is: [...]
I’ve been using VIsta Ultimate 64 bit for a few weeks now and I’ve come to the conclusion it is simply not worth what they are charging. The performance compared to XP is alot slower. Gaming performance is crap under vista with a combination of bad drivers which is Nvidia’s fault and microsofts due to the requirement that all drivers are given the the thumbs up by them due to the shitty DRM protection in Vista. The directx 9.0L performance is just pathetic compared to directx 9.0C on XP 10 to 20% lower performance depending on games. If you are a gamer stay well away from vista for now if you want reliability and performance XP is just great for the next few years.
The only reason Vista will sell is because of Direct 10 which according to the guy at I.D. Software could have easily been released for XP but Microsoft wanted it for Vista to entice people to buy the OS.
I use Linux and now Mac OSX along with XP and Vista and to be honest I find Mac OSX and Linux much more reliable the windows and the only reason I need windows is for gaming.
I have never seen SO MANY god damned shills in all my life! Half belligerently extol Windows Vista; half belligerently extol the MacIntosh. This is RIDICULOUS! Despite all that, the person at this site who eveluated Windows Vista is correct, although I have always liked both the IBM type PC and the MacIntosh. Whatever the case may be, those of you who said such nasty things about this man and to each other apparently have a really bad case of PMS, or, you ain’t getting enough booty calls. Regardless of how much you bitch or bad-mouth the guy who gave this eveluation and each other, the fact remains that what the guy at this site who evaluated Windows Vista says is true, and he is not alone. Like the man here who evaluated Windows Vista, the boys and girls at Cnet and ZDnet say the same thing; and I know they are far more qualified to say this than any of us. The one thing that they said that rings true is, WINDOWS VISTA GIVES YOU NOT ONE COMPELLING REASON TO UPGRADE TO IT FROM WINDOWS XP! Nada! None! It is a travesty that we not only have to shell out $160.00 to $400.00 in order to buy a version of Windows Vista, but it REALLY STINKS that many of us have to pay up to $200.00 more than this just to upgrade our computers so that they have enough RAM, etc just to run Windows Vista. Only an idiot would waste money like that over something that has nothing that would compel them to spend money like that. I don’t know about any of you, but I am not a rich fat cat who has money he can freely waste. So, if any of you do, go ahead and waste your money. I am not that stupid. And to the guy at this site who gave the avaluation of Windows Vista, GOOD JOB!
I loaded Windows Vista Ultimate on one of my newest PCs to see is it was an actual improvement over Windows XP et al. The 64 bit version was better looking, but it is totally disappointing ant not worth the pricetag. My printers do not work with it, at least for the time being. My wireless access point is not supported by it and the upgrade from Linksys did not work. My sound card is not supported by it and no upgrade for it aside from by a new compatible one. I have been moving to MAC for the past 6 months and I will continue to do so.
The Author is right in every letter. Went to Bestbuy to check Vista — it is SO slow even on good machines… XP is good enough for most of the stuff.
We had one of our older PC’s die, and we bought a new one with Vista. We hated it so much that we decided to buy XP for it and fresh install it, well guess what, when we went to buy XP it was explained to us that a new PC that runs Vista cannot have XP installed in it because the motherboard bios are different.
That was the last straw after a week of literally fighting with Vista, we returned the brand new computer that was a fine machine messed up by the Vista demon.
We looked and looked and finally found a new XP machine and bought it.
Vista has put such a bitter taste in my mouth that hell will freeze over before I buy anything at all with Vista on it, it is an evil OS, absolutely evil!!!
WINDOWS VISTA IS A NIGHTMARE!
NEWER ISN’T ALWAYS BETTER!
TRUST ME WHEN I SAY I REALLY KNOW MY WAY AROUND A COMPUTER.
USING 2 OF THE EXACT SAME BRAND NEW GATEWAY LAPTOPS FOR MY BUSINESS – (BOTH WITH IDENTICAL SPECS) ONE WITH WINDOWS AND THE OTHER VISTA, THE VISTA HAS MAJOR UNACCEPTABLE SOUND ISSUES, COMPATIBILITY PROBLEMS AND MANY OTHER ISSUES THAT THE WINDOWS XP LATOP DIDN’T.
VISTA IS A MAJOR SYSTEM HOG USING WAY TOO MUCH MEMORY TO RUN IT.
MAKING IT SLOWER THAN THE XP RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
NO LIE IT TOOK ME 48 HOURS JUST TO “SCAN” A FILE WITH VISTA THAT TOOK WINDOWS XP ONLY 8 HOURS. KEEP IN MIND BOTH LAPTOPS HAVE 2 GIGS OF RAM.
VISTA IS VERY CONFUSING.
TO GET TO CONTROL PANEL ICONS IN VISTA, IT TAKES 3 TIMES AS LONG AS XP HAVING TO CLICK THROUGH SO MANY PAGES TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. IT IS VERY ANNOYING AND TIME CONSUMING.
EVERY PROGRAM I INSTALLED HAD TO BE MADE COMPATIBLE WITH WINDOWS XP.
(IT WAS NOT FUN AT ALL)
I GOT ENDLESS SECURITY AND OTHER WARNING POP UPS UNTIL I DISABLED UAC.
THERE ARE ALMOST NO SOUND OPTIONS AND CHOICES IN VISTA. (AND WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER OPTIONS)
THERE ARE MANY OTHER BAD THINGS I COULD POST ABOUT VISTA BUT LONG POSTS DON’T GET READ.
I HAVE SEEN NO BENEFITS AT ALL FROM VISTA, ONLY HEADACHE AND A MAJOR WASTE OF TIME.
TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, THE WORLD IS NOT READY FOR VISTA AND VISTA IS NOT READY FOR THE WORLD.
NEXT TIME YOU BUY A BRAND NEW COMPUTER, INSIST IT HAS WINDOWS XP.
JUST DO NOT BUY IT WITH VISTA UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO WIPE IT CLEAN AND USE WINDOWS XP, PROVIDING IT IS ABLE TO EVEN RUN XP.
LONG LIVE WINDOWS XP AND LONG LIVE THE COMPUTERS ABLE TO RUN IT!!!!
~GARY
Hey I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but this is a place where people can voice their opinions, not get shot down by MS suck ups. I don’t mean to bash MS but I really don’t know how they managed to create such a suck of an operating system. I have the oportunity to work with computers at the geek squad at best buy and I also sell them in the computer department. The amount of computers coming back for sevice has tripled since the release of vista. ALL of them because of stupid crap, like the UAC pop ups, ignorant IE7 error messages that make no sense, and the simple fact that if you don’t have a dual core with at least a gig of memory your not going to run much more than home premium with no add ons ( such as virus protection in the background.)
Ok, ok sorry enough bashing thats is not where I’m taking this. I am trying to say that ALL of these problems can (or could have) been fixed from the beggining. People complain that there isn’t great software compatability with programs and that they are blaming 3rd party makers for not keeping up. Well, most people don’t know this but MS was sending crap code to begin with.
Ok for those who didn’t keep up with that lets make a small analagy… Take a bent car frame, build a drag racer around that and expect it to work flawlessly, no you have to start all the way from the begginging to make it right. This is what the 3rd parties are having trouble doing, they like the car mechanics are having to build from the beggining which is why its taking so long.
Yes vista will be the mainstay in about 3 years or so but it takes a good step first to to that, which MS has not done.
I am faithfully using xp pro/dual boot ubuntu right now and I refuse to use IE7.
Only surfing the web with firefox.
I do support open source software but I don’t believe that THIS will be the future of computers.
I personally don’t appreciate MS suck ups telling people to upgrade to vista when half of them don’t even really use vista yet.
Again like I said I work at best buy in two different departments dealing with computers and we have had more computers come in with vista in the past month than we have with ME.
People ask me if I can turn off the pop ups from UAC, yes I can but doing so, will pretty much cripple all security features of vista and if you use internet explorer your pretty much screwed without UAC.
Oh don’t even get me started on DRM or wait half of you don’t even know what that is or what it means.
Come back to the boards and argue with me once you’ve went to Barnes and Noble and read up on vista.
The only real reason why I even still use windows instead of a mac is because I am a gamer as well. I am really considering getting a mac because ”boot camp” will be able to run windows programs, such as Battlefeild 2142, and Half-life 2, just to name a few. But wait, When leopard comes out it will be able to run .exe files without the emulators. I wont even bother explaing to those who don’t know. All I can say is google is your friend.
Before I go any farther let me say this… I HATE MACS!!!! they are not user friendly, Sry mac users they aren’t.
Now then… I have had a chance to vent for a while and I appreciate those who have sat through my rant.
The last thing I can say after all the opinionated crap, For those who haven’t ugraded to vista I’m not going to tell you to not buy vista I am going to tell you simply, Do your homework first find out whether your c3180 Hp printer will or won’t work with your new operating system.
Don’t just listen to opinionated/biased things on a forum go talk to somebody who knows what the hell they are talking about, talk not to one person, talk not to just a MS guy, or just to a mac guy talk to multiple guys from both sides and decide for yourself, whether or not you want to upgrade to vista or not.
Thank you.
Tyson
Well tyson, mac may not be user freiendly in your opinion, but it is to most people, unless that is, you are using mac system 7 .
Well tyson, mac may not be user friendly in your opinion, but it is to most people, unless that is, you are using mac system 7 .
People are just giving into it because they think “newer is better”. What do I want out of a newer operating system? All I want is performance. Firewalls can be installed, I can secure my system without a message popping up every 10 minutes confirming that I’m now the world’s idiot for using Vista. How the GUI looks isn’t a factor for me, as long as it’s practical. These new “features” are mostly extra and updated programs. These aren’t operating system features, they’re something you should be able to download regardless.
Kids can post immature comments about how we’re all against Vista because we just like to whine. When XP was released, I actually liked it. It was an improvement over ME and 98. I didn’t like the way it looked (and I still don’t), but it performed on par with its previous version. Vista on the other hand is just a disappointment. It’s 3 years late, it took 5 years to develop, it was beta tested for over a year, and it just performs worse than XP. It’s not compatible with your old hardware or software, and that’s something that innovation should have taken care of. “It’s not optimized for hardware yet” is hardly an excuse, because this should have been the FIRST thing on Microsoft’s agenda, instead of playing around with pretty colors and fixing their network bugs. The thing is a bitch it configure now, I’m telling ya. I’m starting to forget what pictures I’m supposed to click on to configure a static IP address for my ethernet card. Its design isn’t intuitive. People shouldn’t have to re-learn something that they’ve been doing for years. Not only that, but even if you’re now used to Vista’s Control Settings, it still takes twice as long to get to the dialog you need.
I’m not an old timer, I just know what used to work, and obviously Microsoft has forgotten that.
Yes WIndows Vista is garbage. I’m not much of a super computer savvy consumer but I feel represent a large portion of computer literate users. I purchased a “Vista Ready” computer recently and then received my Vista software (which took 4 months). Long story short, I installed it, one of the video drivers did not install properly, I called to try and get it fixed and in order to fix it my hard drive was lost. I’ve reverted back to XP and will be demanding a refund for Vista crap.
I have a computer with vista and one with Windows XP.
I just stick with the XP one, because I can’t get used to the new vista ,
I just don’t like it.. so many bugs and new features. it gets confusing.
Think micorsoft neglected usibility and compatibility and are trying to hard to keep up with OS x, Linux and google…
Any windows just need 3 buttons that will fix the hole thing: 1. Disable all eyecandy 2. Disable all baloons 3. Disable all warnings
I think I will stick with Xp til I get a super computer to run this thing, With all the eye candy its just slowing down your computer.
Great write up!
windows vista is just a piece of junk. damn annoying. hate it. really2 not worth it. shit!
I am a system administrator and my boss bought a new laptop with Vista. He is a very technical user, but he asked me to figure out where to change the display settings (resolution, color depth) because he looked for it, and couldn’t find it right away.
I went to his desk thinking that I will pretend to be a non-technical user and see how intuitive it is to change the display settings. Went to Start, Control Panel and didn’t see the icon in there to change the display settings. I typed “Display settings”, “Screen resolution” and other such things in the search field in the Start menu… Nothing… No help article, nothing. I went to help and searched the Help… nothing…
So, we of course found where to change the settings, but I was amazed at how idiotically this OS was designed.
The esthetics aren’t good either. The overall look is shiny and nice, but the seams aren’t smooth, some icons still look crappy and it just gives you the feeling of a second-class product. That’s if you care that much for the eye candy.
I myself prefer functionality over eyecandy. Like, make the Trash Bin icon actually work, and make the time estimates for copying files more accurate before you decide that you will slow down the whole computer with visual MacOS X wannabe effects.
Another suggestion is: Windows Vista Minimal Edition, for people who just want to get the most out of their hardware, and everything to be responsive, and actually have CPU time and memory left for running powerful programs.
In my opinion, Vista is a failure, and it’s mind-boggling that Microsoft came up with something like this in all these years it was working on it.
This is the year 2007. It’s time the computer became personal again and working for you, not wasting your time.
Windows Vista is AWESOME.
I run it on a $350 dell with another $200 in memory and a video card, and it runs super-fast and looks great.
Stop whining that it won’t run on your pentium 3 with 128MB of ram
This one makes sence “One’s first step in wisdom is to kuesstion everything – and one’s last is to come to terms with everything.”
Windows Vista is a shit! It is just a copycat of Apple old versions of Macintosh
“Redmond has a cat too, a copycat”
Windows Vista is a vast improvement over Windows XP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_features_new_to_Windows_Vista
The list may seem like meaningless technical details to most of you, but realize that the primary role of an operating system is to provide an environment to run applications. The new features in Vista provide a greatly enhanced platform for developing faster, more secure, more robust, more stable applications. Since its brand new, there are relatively few applications that take advantage of Vista’s new capabilities. When that next killer app comes out, it’s not because the programmers all of a sudden got a lot smarter. It’s because the hardware and operating systems have advanced to allow them to do stuff that was previously not feasible.
Unfortunately, most people judge an operating system on its superficial elements. Graphical UI elements and usability are important but they should not be the basis for objectively judging an operating system. These things are highly subjective and most complaints are often a simple training issue. It’s impossible to configure a system with default settings that will please all users.
Vista requires faster hardware and consumes more system resources because it’s doing a lot more than previous versions. This may seem inconvenient for some current systems and applications, but Vista wasn’t designed to make old systems run faster. It was designed to improve the framework so newer, better systems can be developed. It didn’t take Microsoft 5 years to build translucent window borders and sidebar gadgets. It took them 5 years to rewrite a significant portion of an aging platform that was in dire need upgrading. To say that Vista is “just another ME” or “Vista offers no improvements over XP” is simply not true.
“Mac fag doesn’t like Vista, more at 11.”
Anonymous creep posts shit on internet. Film at 11.
What do we see here? I load of Ani-Windows people.
Has any of you installed the final version of Windows Vista?
I have…. and I will say that I find it fater then XP did. Strange hey? Not really. Vista is new code. Not old code from early Windows. Since Microsoft had that black code leak onto the Internet, I can’t see them using that code again. And trust me, they haven’t. The OS is new! Not old crap!
You dont really need a super PC to run Vista. My PC has 1GB RAM, 3GHz CPU and 400GB hard drive. And its 5 years old. Okie, I have added up to 4GB of RAM but I would say 2GB of RAM is best. And hey RAM is cheap!
Most of my programs and games do run fine on Vista after some treaking here and there. And some of my games loads and even play much better than it did on XP!
There are also loads of new stuff in Vista. You just have to look deep for them.
If Vista does not work for you. Then you just have a really cheap and nasty PC that was never worth buying.
If you do have a good spec PC… give Vista and really explorer the OS!
When I purchaced my new system I was given a choice of having Vista or XP pre-installed. Because of all the things microsoft claimed Vista can do, I decided to go with Vista.
I am now regreating my choice and feel cheated. Many of my old programs can’t be run on Vista and custom settings are not easy. I have used most of Microsoft’s OS with the exception of Win 2000 and I think this is the worst OS they ever produce. This is the only OS that I have though of never using again.
Great plugin may be… Or not?
for all you Vista defenders i have only one thing to say to you-
you obviously do not need your precious CPU and Ram resources for anything useful. you must be internet wankers only.
Pro Audio is a JOKE on Vista- frequent glitches in the audio stream- regardless of the hardware (soundcards) tested
DRM bloat that wastes my valuable hardware just to disable itself because of Microsoft seeking to court Hollywood approval
Deliberate hobbling of hardware and the REQUIREMENT that drivers from vendors COMPLY or face the REVOCATION of certificates- resulting in hardware malfunctions in many cases- COMPLETELY caused by this crappy code.
MORE BLOATWARE. this thing is GARBAGE.
they ruined the decent explorer interface and made something USELESS to me anyway instead…
all candy and no dinner.
vista sucks IMHO.
ARE YOU LISTENING REDMOND?????
I found it cute that the article name is “4 Reasons Why….”
It should be “4000 Reaons Why Vista is a pile of microsoft wet hot curry fart!”
Nothing runs on it properly
Even after you get the drivers for thing to run properly… nothing runs properly.
It slowed the pre CS3 Adobe suit so so so so SO badly it was unusable
Keeping in mind im running a E6600 2 core duo with 2GB DDR2 and a 7900gtx with 512mb.
Nothing in the way of usb devices such as my motorola phone connect properly.
THe system crashes when i try to transfer files from my phone, on XP it works fine.
THe security pop ups are SO annoying… is actually asked if i trust the author of an app when the author was MICROSOFT!!!!!!!
It takes longer to boot up than XP.
I got the Home Premium for FREE as part of a learning promo being a retailer of the software… AND I REGRET INSTALLING IT!!!
Can’t go back to XP now without formatting so im stuck…
64 bit Vista is utter bullshit. Especially for gamers. Half life 2: Episode One keeps crashing on me, and the reason im not changing to xp is dx10… ME IS PISSED
No speed BOOST? More like Vista introduces a speed KILL. On my Acer aspire 5050 (I just got), Vista took an ass year to load. And doing relatively simple chores like copying a 65 mb home made avi from USB pen disk to HDD & Vice versa took me 3 minutes. WTF?! And on default, AVI files won’t run. And vids are CHOPPY as hell.
And seriously, did Microsoft pay a crackhead 2 dollars to design the new Vista interface? First, you have a plethora of programmes loading up on startup- and then a load more apps that block the apps that load up. I don’t think I understood that part at all.
OK. Vista has eye candy. I get the point. But sometimes, it’s flaunted to such proportions that the excess graphics FX (eye candy) becomes counter productive & irritating.
And backwards compatibility in Vista is attrociously piss ant poor. I couldn’t even get my modem drivers to install. When I pop the CD, Vista says “installing modem”- it even detects the hardware half way during install but after about 30 minutes of a hair pulling wait, I get a “hardware error” message and get chucked out.
I go on to access the device manager, and cannot even remove the faulty hardware! It just says “unknown device”- I’m neither able to uninstall or disable it!
Seriously, Vista is the biggest load of crocodile crap to grace a PC or a notebook, which is why I grabbed a copy of FIesty Fawn ASAP. Now, I can tell you’ I’m really happy with my laptop….and my PC.
here is one good why vista is the bomb=
DIRECTX 10!
any good game coming out will require it so why not upgrade
THIS WINDOWS VISTA SUCKS!
My toshiba laptop has Intel Core2Duo 1.6GHz
1GB DDR2 RAM
ATI Radeon Hyper Memory (256MB)
120 GB SATA Hard drive
Imagine, using the default windows photo gallery to view picture, it takes forever to load ang 4MB sized jpeg files?! *LOL* well actually, it loads for 2 minutes then it hangs! *LOL* WTF!?
while i have my desktop of lower specs running in XP, it loads flawlessly!
WTF?! *LOL*
One more thing, no backward compatibility in some applciations you will install! *LOL*
WARNING: DON’T DARE TO UPGRADE TO VISTA!!!!!!!!! VISTA SUCKS!!!!
Wow, this is a very “HOT” thread.
My opinion is, ALL OF YOU ARE RIGHT!
Vista is sucks, right, Vista is great, also right.
Mac is great, true, but Linux is also great.
In fact ALL OF THEM are SUCKS & GREAT
But it does depends on the user using it & what he/she is using it for.
Even the smallest knife can be a great weapon on the right hands.
I’ve used Linux, Windows (95, 98, ME, XP & Vista) & (currently using) Mac.
Vista, problems? of course guys, it’s a new born, remember how XP started? look at it now, still the most favorite OS of all time.
Security is always a problem for MS, because it is the MOST USED OS in the WORLD, of course it’s got a lot of enemies.
I often say, MS sucks, but guess what, i still need it and i kinda like it, even when i “hate” it. I have to use 3DSMax for my work, and it doesn’t run on Mac OS X (see one of the advatange of Windows? lots lots of Softwares, and no i don’t wanna waste my time learning some new 3D program for mac)
I like to point out an example of the SUCKS part, just one for each OS:
Windows Media Center, for God’s Sake, the name is MEDIA CENTER, but windows don’t give any codecs to play DVD, we have to buy the codec seperately (e.g. Nvidia Pure Decoder), what the hell???
Macintosh, you MUST buy new peripherals to make it OPTIMAL (e.g. all the ports are USBs, you gotta buy an USB Hub because there’s only 2 port in MacBook or the most annoying one, the line-in/mic-in doesn’t work if the mic don’t have any booster, so guess what? throw your old headset, and buy an USB one or get one with booster)
Remember guys, the bottom line is, THEY ARE ALL BUSINESS MAN, we as an end user, will have to pay, pay and pay, to get what we really really want.
So instead of you guys fighting for which one is better, why don’t you point out what should be fixed.
Afterall, in the end the ones who will use it is US!!! (and we’re paying for it also)
PS: Vista Ultimate, for $400, NOT WORTH IT, too darn expensive (it’s not like ALL the features is usable to us, we just need a lil’ bit from each)
Remember guys, this is just my opinion, everybody is entitled for an opinion right?
Long live Microsoft, long live Machintosh & long live Linux!
Ok, I will say that I agree with ” J7 ” (upside), of course they all have a good and bad part. Windows has a lot of sotware, Mac OSX was user friendly( to his user but not for me) and Linux is free(what a realy good advantages). So as a user, we have to think what we need, and what we can do with them. If you are a gamers, of course microsoft is a good one, if you do some graphic design so go with macs, but if budget is the case so go with linux. So everything is depent on what we need. Some said microsoft sucks, please be honest, it is the most used os in the world and you can see now, Macs is now ready for windows too, why?
Some said mac OSX is good, I agree, but is limited with software.
So plz be calm, and think what we need and then choose one.
I’ve read multiple articles and reviews. I’ve read through all your commentary. I’ve fiddled with Vista, including the advanced options and wireless network configuration systems. Yes, it’s spiffy looking. I’ve run dual boots with Windows and Linux systems. Blah blah blah.
That fact remains however, that Vista is slower than Windows XP on the same hardware. It’s unfortunate, because Vista was looking so beautiful in development, but it’s not living up to its hype. In a few years, after some patches and Service Packs, I’m fairly sure it’ll be the new standard. Right now it falls short of Windows XP Pro by leaps and bounds.
Honestly, it can’t even provide the same graphics effects on screensaver transitions that other Operating Systems can on the exact same machine. This really should be proof enough for the inadequacies of Windows Vista, but then we have the new rating system for determining what Vista believes the hardware is capable of. For anyone who has ever tweaked system performance beyond what it’s rated at, this very concept is absurd.
I can’t say I love Microsoft, but I am a Windows user primarily because of ease of use for my clients. Unfortunately, Windows Vista has taken an easy to use OS and made it “idiot proof” to the point of being user-proof. It’s not a work-station OS. You do have to be a nerd to get the OS running the way your clients need it to. Windows XP Pro is still the way to go, while Windows Vista still has a ways to go development-wise.
“In fact ALL OF THEM are SUCKS & GREAT”
a great opinion
I’ve always been a fanboy of new Windows OS’s until Windows Vista came out. It continuosly froze by computer, so I ended up formatting my drive and installing Windows XP again.
I have just bought a new Vostro 1700 with all the trimmings, a great machine, with one draw back…WINDOWS VISTA…what a monumental piece of utterly utterly unnecessary junk. i have never worked with such an unstable pile of crap……..XP will be going on in the next few days.
C’mon Gates…what are you playing at.
To the poster that made the comment about Photoshop not being “in Linux”. Um . . . . . actually thats not true, im using it right now in xubuntu Linux installed natively through WINE, and it actually runs smoother than it ever has for me in Windows XP. MS Office runs much faster in it too.
I can use alot of windows programs in Linux through Crossover and WINE, the games actually look and feel considerably smoother than they do running in windows, which is rather strange but cool nonetheless.
Oh and um . . . . . all you people out there that love windows and think its a great OS. You all might stop to consider something, ever wonder why defragging is not done hardly ever at all in Linux, let ya in on a hint (its because the filesystem is designed to be a hell of alot more efficient than an NTFS filesystem).
I can sit in photoshop all day long and move huge ass art files around back and fourth and delete things left and right, and guess what, my computer doesnt slow down a bit or skip a beat. Gee I cant help but wonder sometimes, when the idiots at Microsoft are going to wake up and realize just how inefficient Vista really actually is.
If I sit in windows and do that same thing with photoshop, after about 2 hours my computer will slow down to a crawl and then after that shit all over itself resulting in a hard and nasty reboot when everything gets so slow that it just finally freezes or takes 30 minutes to open a window up, which is utterly ridiculous. Yet in Linux, 9 hours later, it is still trucking along, and photoshop is as fast as ever, the OS is just as responsive as when I booted the machine up 72 hours before that 9 hour period photoshop was started, so you tell me? . . . . . hmm a bit odd is it not. Me thinks so
ther are a lot of useful PhotoShop alternatives for linux , and VISTA OMG i’ve tried it twice it’s horrible
Vista is windows ME with a paint job! Its just like windows ME in every way possible just looks nicer thats it. Nothing but problems they should have named it Windows ME Second Edition…..garbage!!!
Then you have those clowns that defend vista just remember those are the same kind of clowns thats also said windows ME was awsome and great…’works flawless’ LMAO… what junk
I am happy I upgraded to Vista.
My job is that I am a computer tech. I do everything from change hardware to software troubleshooting.
Now I won’t claim to be the savviest or most experienced tech. And being not-that-rich, I have not made any upgrades to vista. I’m still chopping away on my bargain-bin Celeron M Dell because of the headaches I’ve encountered with my wife’s new laptop which had Vista Home Premium.
Here are some observations that I have made, though…and these are from personal use with Vista.
1) I have had very few vista systems come in to the office that had any malware/virus problems. So it might well be said that security is better. But the compatibility, on the other hand, is a different ballgame. It is almost ALWAYS hardware/driver/software compatibility related issues that we have to resolve.
2) Networking…it may not always be this way, but it was a royale pain in the ass to install a “vista certified” printer as a network printer for a customer this week. In fact, vista would not do the standard network printer installation — I had to manually install the printer and then manually change the port to the \\server\printer name…and even then, it was slow as get out…I waited for (no joke) just under and hour for it to finally complete the printer setup. And this was a brand new Acer laptop with 2GB RAM Core 2 Duo blah blah blah.
3)DirectX 10 …okay, yeah it’s cool. Yeah, it is the next generation gaming software. I don’t contest that. And yes, gamers, perhaps Vista will be the only DX10 platform, at least for a while, but did it ever occur to you that all of the loose ends in windows vista means that microsoft is making you upgrade to a very crappy, shoddy platform in order to get it? It’s like … yes you get a jewel. But it is cemented to the inside wall of a septic tank. It’s a have-to, but it still sucks. Microsoft made it that way, too. DirectX 10, great. Now let’s break our toes every day to use it, because we have no choice but to get Vista if we want DirectX 10.
4) My wife also had a brand new laptop which had Vista… 1GB DDR2, Athlon 64 x2 and Nvidia graphics (256MB of dedicated memory). Even on the lower resolution/detail settings, she [constantly] had problems both in regular use and with games…driver issues, mouse jumps, hesitation even when typing simple text. It was not virus/malware related performance issues, it was simply just vista and all of its many issues, or for that matter, [possible] issues. I encountered VERY similar problems on other vista systems, especially laptops. We uninstalled all of the junky manufacturer software, removed the Anti-virus, stopped the processes that were the most memory-heavy and I was very disappointed to see that it did not help her problem [at all].
We reformatted to Windows XP Pro and the difference is way more than noticeable. To see how quickly her machine will now boot is absolutely absurd compared to Vista’s boot time. I mean, yes, I can expect a longer boot time for an OS like Vista that requires more resources and all, but this was just WAY too much. Way too LONG. It was frustrating.
Finally, I guess in closing I would say that I don’t think the problem with Vista is lack of features. Yes it has many good features. But what good are features if you can’t even use them smoothly? What good is an OS if it makes using your computer a total pain in the ass? That’s the whole point of an OS…to make things easier…to move things along. Vista, I am sorry, just doesn’t do this. Maybe it will get better with more patches, updates and fixes…but right now it is awful and it seems like no one is doing anything about it. Even the patches that [are] offered to help the compatibility issues and whatnot sometimes don’t even work.
From what I understand, in a month or two dell won’t even offer Windows XP on any more of their systems. Which really is the same as just about everyone. I can’t remember the last time I saw an XP system…even Media Center Edition. I say this because this will be hell for us here at the shop. Everyone will HAVE TO buy vista when they buy a new computer, and they WILL experience MANY problems.
All in all, vista looks very stylish. That’s about all I’ve really liked about it so far. It has been nothing but a pain in the ass for me with [any] experience I’ve had.
Bullsh**. Mac is gaining ground every day. A new classy interface for a failing OS such as windows isn’t going to be able to cover it’s own arse in the near future. I think MAC is doing the right thing. They’re not going all out is advertising, but they’re def letting people know there’s an alternative OS from windows..
Here is my reason not to use VISTA it will make that Gates twat another billion
so he can then invest it in F**King us over again and again.
The other is I cant download it and use for free! HEHE!
Alleagra, shut the f**k up people like you like to be seen as smart and you probs are the biggest twat around.
Kiss my ass to all corporate bastards and their brown nosers!
Get a life muppets stop trying to be so PC! on you PC!